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Dave_H Nomad
Posts : 60 Join date : 2008-07-19 Age : 36 Location : Garston
| Subject: engine conversions Sun Sep 28 2008, 15:15 | |
| What would be a rough figure for a 1.8t engine into a mk2 golf ?DO the conversion companys supply the engines or do you have to find one yourself? Not thinking of any time soon just wondered. cheers dave | |
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brindle Nomad Junkie
Posts : 557 Join date : 2008-06-23 Age : 40 Location : Hemel Hempstead
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Sun Sep 28 2008, 15:49 | |
| judging by adams r32 conversion costing £6000 i'd be looking to spend £4500
Is just a guess mind | |
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Calimori Admin
Posts : 2318 Join date : 2008-02-01 Age : 678 Location : Garston, on the West Side.
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Mon Sep 29 2008, 05:15 | |
| I think a 1.8 20vT can be done for 2.5k but I forgot who got that done. | |
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Hemeleon
Posts : 6 Join date : 2008-09-02 Age : 45 Location : HML/BOV/LDN
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Mon Sep 29 2008, 05:26 | |
| i paid 4k parts and labour back in 2005 | |
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Calimori Admin
Posts : 2318 Join date : 2008-02-01 Age : 678 Location : Garston, on the West Side.
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Mon Sep 29 2008, 05:50 | |
| I am guessing more cars have been smashed up and donor engines should now be cheaper. I have yet to get a go in a 20vT mk2.... | |
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adzG60 Admin
Posts : 448 Join date : 2008-01-31 Age : 36 Location : hemel hempstead
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Mon Sep 29 2008, 09:21 | |
| bin in a s3 powered 280 bhp mk2, felt unreal, put the power down rli well | |
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vwdeviant Nomad Junkie
Posts : 2361 Join date : 2008-02-02 Age : 55 Location : The Rado Chapter.. and the 4-0 crew!
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Mon Sep 29 2008, 09:53 | |
| Look for BAM engines as they're the better to tuine apparently...
Paul has a BAM in his Red Stripped Rado... Very scarey apparently! | |
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Dave_H Nomad
Posts : 60 Join date : 2008-07-19 Age : 36 Location : Garston
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Mon Sep 29 2008, 10:09 | |
| Do vr6 conversions work out the same sort of price?Would love that conversion for the sound alone lol What other conversions are usualy done? Am i right in thinking a new conversion place is opening in flaunden?? Dave | |
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Calimori Admin
Posts : 2318 Join date : 2008-02-01 Age : 678 Location : Garston, on the West Side.
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Mon Sep 29 2008, 10:13 | |
| I thought I AUM was also a good one to buy, hence I bought one.... | |
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Calimori Admin
Posts : 2318 Join date : 2008-02-01 Age : 678 Location : Garston, on the West Side.
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Mon Sep 29 2008, 10:13 | |
| VR6 engines are heavier... | |
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Dave_H Nomad
Posts : 60 Join date : 2008-07-19 Age : 36 Location : Garston
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Mon Sep 29 2008, 10:17 | |
| Cheers for the wheels calimori well pleased. Is the vr6 not a popular choice for mk2's because of the weight issue ? | |
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Fitzy Moderator
Posts : 3526 Join date : 2008-02-01 Age : 40 Location : St Albans
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Mon Sep 29 2008, 10:22 | |
| yeah, it messes up ur handling, makes ur car too front heavy | |
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Calimori Admin
Posts : 2318 Join date : 2008-02-01 Age : 678 Location : Garston, on the West Side.
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Mon Sep 29 2008, 10:37 | |
| Glad you were pleased with them, I am glad they went to a club member and will make your Golf look sweet. As Mr Fitzy says, it messes up the sweet handling of the MK2. The 1.8 20VT is lighter and therefore makes less impact. However the plumbing and wiring is harder and you would need a black box to sort it out, would for the VR6 engine as well. 20VT engines were similar cost last time I looked. Get a VR6 and supercharge it.... I am looking at rado's again.... | |
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adzG60 Admin
Posts : 448 Join date : 2008-01-31 Age : 36 Location : hemel hempstead
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Bazza Nomad Crew
Posts : 2574 Join date : 2008-02-13 Age : 55 Location : St Albans, Herts.
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Mon Sep 29 2008, 11:24 | |
| - Calimori wrote:
- I am looking at rado's again....
Cool, hope you find an unmolested one | |
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Calimori Admin
Posts : 2318 Join date : 2008-02-01 Age : 678 Location : Garston, on the West Side.
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Mon Sep 29 2008, 15:54 | |
| There are a few... this one might be too much right now. click-me-you-know-you-want-to | |
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D.A.M IT! Moderator
Posts : 598 Join date : 2008-02-01 Age : 52 Location : Cambridge
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Tue Sep 30 2008, 16:03 | |
| £11.000 this is probably the most expencive but definetly one of the best condition rads i think I've ever seen gotta love this quote.... "If you plan to fit a wide arch body kit or hideous ICE install then please buy another Corrado as a base." | |
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vwdeviant Nomad Junkie
Posts : 2361 Join date : 2008-02-02 Age : 55 Location : The Rado Chapter.. and the 4-0 crew!
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Wed Oct 01 2008, 07:29 | |
| And it's 4-stud, so either a 16v or more likely as it's B-Berry a run-out 8v base car...
Been up for ages and from memory has tiny brakes too! | |
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vr6brew Nomad Crew
Posts : 1506 Join date : 2008-01-31 Age : 56 Location : Hemel
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Wed Oct 01 2008, 08:15 | |
| Yes it is very nice.... but its hard to see where £40,000 has been spent.... thats a big loss of £30,000... | |
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Calimori Admin
Posts : 2318 Join date : 2008-02-01 Age : 678 Location : Garston, on the West Side.
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Wed Oct 01 2008, 08:44 | |
| Good spots, I wouldn't have notice the wheel studs. Maybe if I offer £5k they will accept it... | |
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Rigs Nomad
Posts : 63 Join date : 2008-10-08 Location : Aylesbury
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Thu Oct 09 2008, 04:44 | |
| Had to jump on this one... vr6 in a mk2. You can buy a VR6 + loom + subframe + ecu + everything from breakers for £500-600 You can do the conversion in a weekend if you're starting with a 90spec wired mk2 (i.e. hazard light switch on the steering column not on the dash) - hardest part is joining the vr6 loom to the existing wiring in the mk2. That just takes a bit of planning and a copy of the wiring diagrams (available on 'net) Throw in £500 for suspension and you're sorted. Engine mounts match, even the driveshafts can be reused. It's a very reliable engine and in my opinion every bit as good as a 1.8t conversion despite its obvious power deficite. VR6s deliver their power so much better and 1.8ts just sound pants. Now, this myth about vr6 mk2s not handling and the vr engine being heavy etc... etc.. BLAH. Myth... not fact. Sure, take out a 1.8 and shove in a vr6 and it'll understeer like a twat. Think about it a bit and buy a set of suspension designed for the extra weight and you have a very well handling car. Sure, it's never going to be quite like the 1.8 mk2 as the vr is significantly heavier but people saying mk2 vrs dont handle is just rediculous. People also seem to think the 1.8t is a light engine... not so. It too complete with all its piping, intercooler etc... weighs a fair bit and if you're using one of the 35 tonne 6 speed boxes you're pretty damn close to if not heavier than a vr6. Some years ago an idiot friend of mine convinced me to build a mk2 vr6 track day car for the sole purpose of disspelling this myth... by god it was an awesome car. Built on a £2500 budget (including buying car) we had a 8v gti mk2 with brembo brakes, vr6 with 268 cams pushing 205hp and FK suspension and it bloody flew. Smack in the face for many "it wont do corners" people that had to eat their words. The now infamous Gary/GVK now seems to have taken the batton and is still showing people mk2 vr6s fly. It's rediculous really... gets on my tits. Don't discount the vr6 conversion on count of hearsay. Go for a ride in both and make up your own mind! | |
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Rigs Nomad
Posts : 63 Join date : 2008-10-08 Location : Aylesbury
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Thu Oct 09 2008, 04:57 | |
| GVKs mk2 vr6 NOT handling round cadwell park Saw spot... heh. | |
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L0WRiDE Nomad Junkie
Posts : 790 Join date : 2008-06-03 Age : 39 Location : Bennie end
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Thu Oct 09 2008, 05:56 | |
| THANKS Rigs, some onestanding up for mk2 vr6! ( not that i have one!) like like the sound of ur "to prove" project, ACE.
i feel that alot of people disgarde this conversion, and hardly anyone has driven one! with correct suspension set up, as you say u could have a gd car. | |
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| Subject: Re: engine conversions Thu Oct 09 2008, 16:39 | |
| - Rigs wrote:
- Had to jump on this one... vr6 in a mk2.
You can buy a VR6 + loom + subframe + ecu + everything from breakers for £500-600 You can do the conversion in a weekend if you're starting with a 90spec wired mk2 (i.e. hazard light switch on the steering column not on the dash) - hardest part is joining the vr6 loom to the existing wiring in the mk2. That just takes a bit of planning and a copy of the wiring diagrams (available on 'net) Throw in £500 for suspension and you're sorted. Engine mounts match, even the driveshafts can be reused.
It's a very reliable engine and in my opinion every bit as good as a 1.8t conversion despite its obvious power deficite. VR6s deliver their power so much better and 1.8ts just sound pants.
Now, this myth about vr6 mk2s not handling and the vr engine being heavy etc... etc.. BLAH. Myth... not fact.
Sure, take out a 1.8 and shove in a vr6 and it'll understeer like a twat. Think about it a bit and buy a set of suspension designed for the extra weight and you have a very well handling car. Sure, it's never going to be quite like the 1.8 mk2 as the vr is significantly heavier but people saying mk2 vrs dont handle is just rediculous. People also seem to think the 1.8t is a light engine... not so. It too complete with all its piping, intercooler etc... weighs a fair bit and if you're using one of the 35 tonne 6 speed boxes you're pretty damn close to if not heavier than a vr6.
Some years ago an idiot friend of mine convinced me to build a mk2 vr6 track day car for the sole purpose of disspelling this myth... by god it was an awesome car. Built on a £2500 budget (including buying car) we had a 8v gti mk2 with brembo brakes, vr6 with 268 cams pushing 205hp and FK suspension and it bloody flew. Smack in the face for many "it wont do corners" people that had to eat their words. The now infamous Gary/GVK now seems to have taken the batton and is still showing people mk2 vr6s fly.
It's rediculous really... gets on my tits.
Don't discount the vr6 conversion on count of hearsay. Go for a ride in both and make up your own mind! wicked write up dude! have to agree, theres no replacement for displacement! really cant wait to see yours though mate! |
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adzG60 Admin
Posts : 448 Join date : 2008-01-31 Age : 36 Location : hemel hempstead
| Subject: Re: engine conversions Fri Oct 10 2008, 05:26 | |
| for the engine your getting compared to the costs of a DIY jobbie, then a vr6 makes sense, plus u cnt beat the sound ogf a vr, wack a charger on and your laughing | |
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